May 05, 2014

The Return of the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy: Administration's/Democrats' Coordinated Response to Benghazi Email Is to Call All Inquiries and Doubts "Conspiracy Theories" and "Delusional"
— Ace

It's worth remembering that in 1994 a Chris Lehane-drafted memo conjured up the menace of the "vast rightwing conspiracy" by essentially claiming that any and all derogatory reports on Bill and Hillary Clinton were "conspiracy theories."

There were indeed some claims made by conservatives on the internet that could be termed "conspiracy theories," such as the alleged cover-up of the Vince Foster suicide.

But the Lehane memo also categorized Gennifer Flowers' and Paula Jones' allegations as "conspiracy theories." And of course they were true.

The scandal-plagued Democrats now enact the same playbook, claiming that every true-but-damaging thing said against them constitutes a "conspiracy theory" that no reasonable person could possibly entertain.

Jay Carney:

“There is a problem when you have so many conspiracy theories that get knocked down by the facts and yet, the adherents to those theories only become more convinced that the facts aren’t what they so clearly are,” Carney said, calling the special committee “so partisan in nature.”

Carney went on to criticize the “information loop” on Benghazi saying that Republicans and “certain media outlets” were fueling a false narrative on the attack that killed four Americans.

David Plouffe calls any questions about Benghazi "delusional."

"There's a very loud, delusional minority that's driving our politics that's in control of the Republican Party. There's no conspiracy here at all."

Former Congresswoman (D) Jane Harman likewise claims that Republicans are engaging in "conspiracy theories" about Benghazi.

HARMAN: [L]et me make a couple comments on Benghazi. I know something about this. And the day after the Susan Rice appearances, I -- or the day after the event, I was meeting with some senior intelligence committee folks, because I still advise in some capacities on boards to some of our agencies. And I think there was legitimate confusion.

I agree about the point that the video was in Egypt and nobody really knew what the facts were. I'm reading from the Ben Rhodes memo which I've never seen before and it said, "We're not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent."

And I think that was accurate. So --

WALLACE: Because we didn't have actionable intelligence about 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

HARMAN: No, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

WALLACE: It doesn't mean it wasn't a terror attack.

HARMAN: I would call that an intelligence failure. And, by the way, this was an intelligence failure. But it wasn't a conspiracy. And there aren't aliens in Area 51 and Vince Foster wasn't murdered.

And it's time to move on and focus on the real problems in Libya and other problems that affect the --

Sounds like the White House has crafted some new Talking Points about their discredited Benghazi Talking Points.

In the Obama Wonderland of endless dissembling, even the Talking Points have their own Talking Points.

Incidentally, Britt Hume let Jane Harman have it on her rote Talking Points Talking Points.

“You’re right, there wasn’t a conspiracy in the United States to mount the Benghazi attack,” Hume said. ”That’s not the question. The question was whether in the aftermath of the attack, when the administration sent its U.N. ambassador out to explain it to everybody, and she did so falsely, that there wasn’t a conspiracy to create the false talking points that she used. I’m not talking about the CIA talking points, I’m talking about the talking points used on that program that day, which were monumentally misleading, that since have been shown to be false, and based on no intelligence of any consequence that we know of.”

Hume pressed Harman to name a single person in the administration who credibly believed that the Benghazi attack was connected to an anti-Islam video. Predictably, she could not do so.

“Ben Rhodes talks about the video five times in this memo, five times,” host Chris Wallace interjected.

Sharyl Atkkisson notes that this is precisely what she means when she talks about the Administration's unending campaign to "controversialize" legitimate, factual reporting they don't like.

SHARYL ATTKISSON: Well, the key words they use such as conspiracy and delusional are in my opinion, clearly designed to try to controversialize a story, a legitimate news story, a legitimate area of journalistic inquiry. To some degree, thatÂ’s successful, but I think primarily among those that donÂ’t want to look at this as a story in the first place. But I see that as a well-orchestrated strategy to controversialize a story they really donÂ’t want to hear about.

The media, she means, by that bit.

The best lie is the one you never have to offer, because you've intimidated people from asking about it at all.


Posted by: Ace at 11:33 AM | Comments (307)
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1 9-11 Trooferism?  'Important questions.'

Posted by: --- at May 05, 2014 11:35 AM (MMC8r)

2 Dude! Iowahawk has it best when he says something like this. Not present in WH Situatuion room on 9/11/2012: President of the United States. Present in WH Situation room on 9/11/2012: campaign van driver.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 05, 2014 11:36 AM (tmFlQ)

3

Dude,

Cass Sunstein wrote a chapter or a book about this.

 

It is called lie, and call your political opponent a conspiricy monger.

 

Repeat, forever....

 

LIV and FSA we are doomed, doomed!

 

first?

 

 

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 11:37 AM (q+zA9)

4 What about the guy who is still in jail? Is he a conspiracy theory?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 11:38 AM (ZZPs4)

5

try again

lie, and call your political opponent a conspiricy monger.

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 11:38 AM (q+zA9)

6 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (PYAXX)

7 Anything you say which is bad, damaging, doubt-casting, etc no matter how true, is per se illegitimate, callous, demeaning, racist, and conspiratorial. Anything we say is music straight from the angels. *singing in unison* Pro-gress-ive-ism!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (gtjN1)

8

I guess they've exhausted 'Racism!!!'?

Posted by: --- at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (MMC8r)

9 Bunch of stuttering clusterfucks

Posted by: Max Power at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (q177U)

10 News people covering the White House and their husbands/wives/sisters/brothers working for the administration would rather report propaganda than sell newspapers. Somehow these clowns in the Press Briefing room think they're immune from economic consequences, and they couldn't care less about mythic ideas of being "journalists".

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (F58x4)

11 We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - George Orwell

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (QupBk)

12 First, ignore. Then, mock. Then, attack. Then, smear. It happens every single time a Dem has a scandal.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (ZZPs4)

13 What about the guy who is still in jail? Is he a conspiracy theory?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 03:38 PM (ZZPs4)

 

Scape goat

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 11:39 AM (q+zA9)

14 really, obvious sock? can you help me track that down?

Posted by: ace at May 05, 2014 11:40 AM (/FnUH)

15 And, by the way, this was an intelligence failure.
***
Ok, who was fired for the intelligence failure?

Also, when this came to light, why did the administration say it was a anti-islamic video if it was an intelligence failure?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2014 11:40 AM (78TbK)

16 The President had his own little "situation room" going on, I think.

Posted by: Max Power at May 05, 2014 11:40 AM (q177U)

17 Sorry,  I just shot my conspiracy theory all over  your  pretty blue dress.  

Posted by: Bill at May 05, 2014 11:40 AM (m2CN7)

18 Oh if you watch that Hume clip, which makes me tingly in my tingly parts, there's pretty much an attempt by that bint to turn questions about the changes to the memo to 9-11 trutherism. At one point she hauls out the there was no actionable intelligence on an attack line and Wallace slams back with there wasn't for 9-11 either and it happened and she has to do a huge huge back pedal that yes yes yes the attack happened. The look on Hume's face at the initial cutaway is priceless, just priceless. Also, this sure as hell looks like an actual conspiracy to me. I mean, all evidence suggests that a group of people got together and determined to blame the attacks on a video with no supporting evidence at all in order to avoid the political consequences. Then there's that no one will answer where Obama was during the attacks other than a generic in the White House. I still want to punch Lehane in his crapweasel face for that article where he does the hell yeah I would have written it again and then does the whole oh I didn't mean there were actual conspiracies wink wink nudge nudge.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 05, 2014 11:40 AM (mf5HN)

19 So the BridgeGate scandal in Jersey - also a conspiracy ? Hairy Reed's incessant Koch Brothers accusations - delusions yes ? GOP constant use of codewords and dog whistles - conspiracy ?

Posted by: McCool at May 05, 2014 11:40 AM (nCSwS)

20 I will say this, at least they all try to get on the same page and advance a single unified message. And Hillary Clinton has been tip toeing through the rain drops of her criminality and incompetence for at the last 30+ years.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (bd38m)

21 So, if I believe that Obama and Hitlery were incompetent and just didn't give a crap about the Benghazi attack, I believe in a 'conspiracy'? 

Posted by: Mole6 at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (m0le6)

22 We must be getting close to the truth.  I expect an influx of super nutty theories they can put up as straw men.

Posted by: Dang at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (MNq6o)

23 I seem to recall some dumb whore on the television wearing fucking tampons on her ears.  Yeah, I'm delusional.

Posted by: Fritz at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (UzPAd)

24 Flooding the lolzone.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (GXZgZ)

25 They're right, you know. The only thing that has prevented our god-king Ogabe from ushering in the Golden Age of Gaia is futile resistance by criminal reactionary elements.

Posted by: Criminal reactionary element with a primordial nuclide at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (1/4XQ)

26 Glad that Hume put the spurs to Jane Harmon. She's an extremely wealthy (married to the Harmon of Harmon-Kardan) liberal Palos Verdes Peninsula resident. She's not as bad as some of the other Dem Wackos Californians send to Congress. But that ain't saying much since the cast of Congress critters includes Pelosi, Baghdad Barbara Boxer, Maxine Gatemouiht Waters and a couple of nutcake Representatives from the East Bay area.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (wdHk6)

27 really, obvious sock? can you help me track that down?

Posted by: ace at May 05, 2014 03:40 PM (/FnUH)

 

give me a sec, or 17

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (q+zA9)

28 Imagine how strange it will be with a Republican President. All the pent up frustration will be unleashed on this new administration. It will be an epic meltdown.

Posted by: Max Power at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (q177U)

29 While we're on the subject of conspiracy theories . . . Have any of you other Morons noticed that the reception on AM radio stations carrying Rush Limbaugh has taken a turn for the worse in the past couple of years? I used to be able to pick up his show just fine, now there's a loud hum drowning him out. The station's not that far away, either. And my local NPR station comes through loud and clear. Just askin'.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2014 11:41 AM (VJAV8)

30 Dude, like sober up, man.

Posted by: Tommy Vietor at May 05, 2014 11:42 AM (8ZskC)

31 Brett Hume?

Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at May 05, 2014 11:42 AM (YxFgE)

32 I'm hesitating to comment until I hear what Will.i.am thinks about this.

Posted by: wth at May 05, 2014 11:43 AM (wAQA5)

33 As I said before, the ONLY play the Prog/Commies have is the Ad Hominem attack. If you believe something bad about the president, you have to be a Raaaaacist and/or "a conspiracy theorist" and/or "delusional." See, you are not legitimate, therefore your argument cannot be legitimate. Good on Hume for not accepting that, but more Rs and Conservatives need to call it out. It'd be nice if they called it out explicitly. "So you're saying the only possible way you might believe that the White House engaged in a cover-up of its failures is if you're some delusional conspiracy nut?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 05, 2014 11:43 AM (PYAXX)

34

Its just crazy to think the  former National Security Director would stuff  top secret papers in his socks and underwear.  

 

Where do these Republicans  come up with these  idiotic conspiracies?

Posted by: Democrats circa 2004 at May 05, 2014 11:43 AM (m2CN7)

35 Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2014 03:39 PM (F58x4) I'd imagine they get access, insider stock tips and possible bailouts. (How'd that work out for Ezra Klein?) Plus, they were fast-tracked for this life, so they are in perfect agreements with the progs. Fuck integrity.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 05, 2014 11:43 AM (Y92Nd)

36 “There is a problem when you have so many conspiracy theories that get knocked down by the facts and yet, the adherents to those theories only become more convinced that the facts aren’t what they so clearly are,” Carney said, calling the special committee the so partisan in nature.” So Mr. Carney thinks that all of the folks who "believe" in global warming are just conspiracy theorist?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth (@Teresa_Koch) at May 05, 2014 11:43 AM (PZ6/M)

37 I will say this, at least they all try to get on the same page and advance a single unified message.
***
This is the benefit of a strict hierarchy. Obama demands that the left believe something and suddenly they all do.

Conservatives, are too independent for this sort of top down approach, which means we have terrible message discipline...but MUCH better ideas...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2014 11:43 AM (78TbK)

38 Here's how you know he was scapegoated: If Benghazi never happened, would Youssef ever have been arrested for making his video and loading it into his account at YouTube?

Posted by: MTF at May 05, 2014 11:45 AM (+fuKQ)

39 liar, conspiracy monger Don't forget one ace likes... idiot Meh, I've been called worse by better. Back to work. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at May 05, 2014 11:45 AM (Nsomq)

40 Bleep bleep bleep bleep goddamn Bush bleep bleep Cheney bleep bleep

Posted by: Cenk Ugyur at May 05, 2014 11:45 AM (wAQA5)

41 A powerful GOP operative told me that Republicans just don't care about children but they would be interested in eating the placentas.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 05, 2014 11:45 AM (8ZskC)

42 Oh, and Jane Harman looks like she'd melt if you threw water on her. But, War on Wymmin and all that.

Posted by: joncelli at May 05, 2014 11:46 AM (RD7QR)

43 Nancy that's just fucking gross.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 11:47 AM (GXZgZ)

44 Speaking of conspiracy theories, isn't it interesting how many of them of late have turned out to be...true?

Consider journolist, how the Bush DUI story got out, or Obama's shut down theater.

The State Media call them conspiracy theories, then business as usual, then old news so fast it will make your head spin.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2014 11:47 AM (78TbK)

45 38 Here's how you know he was scapegoated: If Benghazi never happened, would Youssef ever have been arrested for making his video and loading it into his account at YouTube? Quite obviously not. He wouldn't have been grabbed in a midnight raid with cameras present either.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 11:47 AM (ZZPs4)

46 the intent of the boycott and all this "conspiracy/delusional" talk is to give the Old Media the excuse not to cover the Select Committee hearings. If they can keep the coverage down to a minimum, then Obama can continue to obfuscate and delay and drag things out interminably. They don't want public interest to rebuild on Benghazi because the pressure for answers will grow, too. So keeping coverage "discreet" is their only remaining weapon.

Posted by: Adjoran at May 05, 2014 11:47 AM (QIQ6j)

47 Only conservative ideas are controversial. "Tonight, we will cover the controversial new gun law in Georgia." All others are simply common sense.

Posted by: AMDG at May 05, 2014 11:47 AM (eFytx)

48 Angie Harmon looks like she should be in a T shirt if you threw water on her.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 11:48 AM (GXZgZ)

49

 While we're on the subject of conspiracy theories . . .

Have any of you other Morons noticed that the reception on AM radio stations carrying Rush Limbaugh has taken a turn for the worse in the past couple of years? I used to be able to pick up his show just fine, now there's a loud hum drowning him out. The station's not that far away, either.

And my local NPR station comes through loud and clear.

Just askin'.

============================================

Wouldnt surpise me if they were jamming it

 

 

 

Posted by: Big Swingin Al at May 05, 2014 11:48 AM (iWo0u)

50

Harmon's comments sounded reasonable at first, but as I thought about them, they are ridiculous. 

 

She claims that on that Sunday, the White House and others were still confused about what happened.  But even if that were true (and it is not), that doesn't explain why Rice went out and said pretty definitively it was the video.  

 

 Under Harmon's theory, Rice should have said "We're confused... it could have been a pre-planned terrorist attack, a response to the video, or something else."

 

That's not what happened.

 

Posted by: LASue at May 05, 2014 11:48 AM (pWeX5)

51

 

 

book

http://tinyurl.com/qynjx5o

 

White paper

http://tinyurl.com/3jv4wo


I can dig up more, tow to start

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 11:48 AM (q+zA9)

52 Have any of you other Morons noticed that the reception on AM radio stations carrying Rush Limbaugh has taken a turn for the worse in the past couple of years? I used to be able to pick up his show just fine, now there's a loud hum drowning him out. The station's not that far away, either. Have any new tall buildings gone up in your area in the last couple of years? Especially any new Hospitals? It's also possible you have an illegal broadcaster near you. Any HAM radio enthusiasts put up a large tower?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 11:48 AM (gtjN1)

53 Whelp, the MSM and lame sycophantic clapper comedian-like facsimiles have their marching orders now. I'll just write some lame-ass jokes here so you guys won't get fecal impaction of the sinus from all the brown-nosing: 1) Q: Hey, why are Republicans like the X-Files? A: Cuz they're all about crazy conspiracy theories. *insert laughter* 2) Q: Hey, why are the Republicans on Benghazi like Hereford driving at Talladega? A: Cuz they're Cow Racey? Geddit? *insert laughter*

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2014 11:49 AM (0cMkb)

54 Here's how you know he was scapegoated: If Benghazi never happened, would Youssef ever have been arrested for making his video and loading it into his account at YouTube?
***
Whalid Shoebat has been arguing that the Muslim Brotherhood figures in the administration found the video and wanted to target it because they were looking to go after anti-Islamic speech.

It certainly provides a reason why Obama choose THIS video and on such short notice...and now we are seeing the right person (I forget the name) was in these meetings where they decided on blaming the video...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2014 11:49 AM (78TbK)

55 Harmon has a trail carnage behind her a mile wide and off in to the horizon. She is the reason that there were intelligence failures before 9-11, 2001. It was her "wall of separation" between the FBI and the CIA that is why one agency was not allowed to share information with the other. The woman is human wrecking ball.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 11:49 AM (JgC5a)

56 BenGhazi: mistakes were made by hard-working public servants. NJ GW bridge lane closings: what did Christie know and when did he know it?

Posted by: mallfly at May 05, 2014 11:50 AM (bJm7W)

57 Is your radio plugged in? We have to ask.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 11:50 AM (GXZgZ)

58 I'm curious: has anyone else noticed the AM radio problem I mentioned? Is this a thing?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2014 11:50 AM (VJAV8)

59 Isn't it Vast Right Wing Racist Misogynist Homophobe Conspiracy? Did I miss anyone?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at May 05, 2014 11:50 AM (oDCMR)

60 It's also a vast rightwing conspiracy that Obamacare is costing people more than their old insurance.

Posted by: Roy at May 05, 2014 11:50 AM (VndSC)

61 See Jane Talk, See Jane talk using the talking points. See Jane use "Alien" and "conspiracy." See Dick Demo run. See Dick Demo run with talking points. Run Dick Run!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2014 11:50 AM (XyM/Y)

62 Have any of you other Morons noticed that the reception on AM radio stations carrying Rush Limbaugh has taken a turn for the worse in the past couple of years?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2014 03:41 PM (VJAV

http://tinyurl.com/jwo7dpa


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (27KaM)

63 They figure the birth certificate issue was such a stunning victory it can be used to discredit any criticism. Oh and a large stunningly misinformed/ignorant/disconnected portion of the electorate helps too.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (dvRYt)

64 If you follow the trail of Talking Points edits, you can see that the White House was desperate to sell the story that the ROOT CAUSE of the Benghazi attacks was the Bigot Video protests. 

That message got passed through so many political hands and propaganda ministers that, by the time the final Talking Points hit the airwaves through Rice's mouth, they had her saying that the Benghazi attacks were IMMEDIATELY PRECEDED by a Bigot Video protest. 

It's kind of the way gossip works -- someone says that A is annoyed by B and wants to say something rude about it, and by the time the story gets to Z, the story is that A killed B's mother and raped her corpse. 

The Obama White House kept pushing the connection between the attack and the Bigot Video, and over the course of repeated political edits, by people with no new real information, it got to the point that the Bigot Video directly incited the Benghazi attack. 

But, of course, there was no protest in Benghazi.  None.  Oops. 

The Bigot Video meme was initially supposed to be a distant, mutli-layered, policy-analyst we're-so-smart-you-wouldn't-understand root-cause kind of explanation.  Not a boots-on-the-ground, check-the-surveillance-video kind of explanation.  But the former got merged with the latter. 

Posted by: Phinn at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (i5GO4)

65 Hillary tried to throw a friend of hers under the bus with her famous VRWC statement. It pissed the woman off so bad that she released the audio of the conversation (she was conducting and interview) that showed that Hillary brought it up, and the woman merely got her to repeat it to be sure about what she heard.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (nj9sX)

66

Comanche Voter:

 

The Palos Verdes Peninsula is NOT liberal.  Unfortunately, it's lumped in with liberal areas so our votes get significantly watered down.

 

I thought Harmon lived in Manhattan Beach?

 

Posted by: LASue at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (pWeX5)

67 VRWC: Kate Upton has a big rack.

Posted by: Roy at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (VndSC)

68 The old saying:

If you have the truth on your side tell the truth


If you have the media on your side go with the media


If you have nothing lie like hell call your opponents names.


They are shouting out lies because everything the Republicans said about Benghazi has proven true.  Even if they hide the witnesses and force them to sign "secrecy" contracts.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 05, 2014 11:51 AM (T2V/1)

69 Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2014 03:50 PM (VJAV I haven't noticed it with WBAP here in DFW. That said, it's more or less an open secret that Cumulous (who now owns WBAP) would like Rush, Hannity, et. al. silenced. That's why they let the #2 talk radio host in the nation move to Salem Communications- they think that he'll wither on the vine there.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 05, 2014 11:52 AM (PYAXX)

70 *updates English to Liberal translator* "shall not be infringed": limited according to political preference, political correctness, or if someone, somewhere may be offended "Facts": Conspiracy Theories "No actionable intelligence": Make up something out of whole cloth that has no relation to any facts for information available that minimizes political risk

Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 11:54 AM (j0wOO)

71 I question the wisdom of bringing up the name of Vince Foster again. Calculated or stupid?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 05, 2014 11:54 AM (BZAd3)

72 Rush said something similar earlier today, probably quoting the same ppl you are quoting, Ace. The left calls everything a conspiracy theory, even when it is NOT a conspiracy theory. They get away with it because the feckless GOP does nothing, and then the LIV swallows the lie. Also, it was pointed out on Beck today that Obama made fun of birtherism at Nerd Prom, trotted out that no one will be able to say Clinton was born in Kenya. WHO started that whole birtherism conspiracy theory rolling in the first place? HILARY'S TEAM! The lefty brain is so full of conspiracy theories everywhere they can't even remember which ones they themselves started. And again, feckless GOP does nothing. What brave warriors we have.

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 11:54 AM (yRwC8)

73 You can usually stream Rush on your computer if you can find the station's website. Personally I can't stand the callers, so I have stopped listening to his show.

Posted by: Max Power at May 05, 2014 11:55 AM (q177U)

74 @71 s/b 'exsanguinated Vince, RIP'... fify

Posted by: Criminal reactionary element with a primordial nuclide at May 05, 2014 11:56 AM (1/4XQ)

75 Never forget the other memo from the Clinton Administration:

How to handle a scandal:
Deflect
Deny
Evade
Act Stupid

That was their strategy to everything.
And it works.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2014 11:56 AM (VjL9S)

76 Republican = Right Wing? Dude, that was like last century!

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 05, 2014 11:56 AM (BZAd3)

77 "The best lie is the one you never have to offer, because you've intimidated people from asking about it at all." I don't think the media has been intimidated about questioning the way the White House handled the Benghazi incident. I think that they gladly ignore the story in order to protect "their guy". They actively help TFG to spin his failures.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2014 11:56 AM (qKLjO)

78 Only after a series of edits -- with various State, White House, and CIA officials massaging the talking points -- do the talking points themselves "spontaneously evolve" to include a direct claim ... ace = ah, what "taking full responsibility" MEANS to mean considering the source Hillary/Obama. Spontaneous evolution requires a lot of heavy massage -- "molding" the outcome. Spontaneous combustion? Friction.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 11:56 AM (gmrH5)

79

Always  with the Vince Foster  thing.....

 

What about me. 

Posted by: Zombie Ron Brown at May 05, 2014 11:57 AM (TOk1P)

80 It's all     conspiracy     theories, not supported by any facts.  Oh, and fire Sharyl Atkinson and Lara Logan, because they keep reporting on a non-story

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 05, 2014 11:57 AM (AskuI)

81 That was their strategy to everything. And it works. Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2014 03:56 PM (VjL9S) Counsel attributed to Hillary when she was advising Billy - "Deny, deny, deny."

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 05, 2014 11:57 AM (BZAd3)

82 67 VRWC: Kate Upton has a big rack. Posted by: Roy at May 05, 2014 03:51 PM (VndSC) VRWC: the indoctrination of our children into loving bacon as a cultural attack against Muslim cultures

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 11:57 AM (yRwC8)

83 I am a proud conspiratorial delusionist.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 05, 2014 11:57 AM (32Ze2)

84 Best lie I ever told, 'That's right, baby. I'll respect you in the morning."

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 11:57 AM (XUKZU)

85 "The Return of the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy" YAY me!

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 11:58 AM (fWAjv)

86 Did you realize that you can't spell 'conspiracy' without 'piracy'. Arrrrgggh! Now I want a parrot and an eyepatch. Oh, and a peg leg.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 05, 2014 11:58 AM (mvenn)

87 Half the country doesn't want to believe. And our leadership wants to increase our appeal to them. Trey Gowdy will call some witnesses and this will go nowhere. In a week Boehner will be back to schmoozing donors with promises of amnesty and getting political opponents fired.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 11:59 AM (5aory)

88 Nobody  talks about us anymore either. 

Posted by: Zombie Teenage Mena, Arkansas Potheads at May 05, 2014 11:59 AM (TOk1P)

89 "The Return of the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy" IT'S A TRAPPPP!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 05, 2014 11:59 AM (yRwC8)

90 As a defense, the VRWC was the best that was available.  And IIRC, it didn't actually work.  Yes, it did provide some with sufficient intellectual cover that they could maintain their state of denial but as a whole it didn't actually work.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wash and Wax Your Wroth at the Outrage Outlet! at May 05, 2014 11:59 AM (hLRSq)

91 Just remember, Jane Harman is one of the "wise" and "serious" Democrats.

Posted by: ejo at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (GXvSO)

92 I assume Harmon inherited her husband's $1 magazine chain, yes?

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (QupBk)

93

As a southpaw, I resent that the world is a Vast Right-handed Conspiracy.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (JtwS4)

94

When I watched the vid as soon as I heard about it it had 12k views on Youtube.

I heard on Rush/Hannity/Beck/Levin...some where that it had 4k views when the Egyptian consolute first tweeted about it.

 

Nobody in Lybia saw the vid

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (q+zA9)

95 Harmon's comments sounded reasonable at first, but as I thought about them, they are ridiculous. She claims that on that Sunday, the White House and others were still confused about what happened. But evenif that were true (and it is not), thatdoesn't explain why Rice went out and said pretty definitively it was the video. Under Harmon's theory, Rice should have said "We're confused... it could have beena pre-planned terrorist attack, aresponse to thevideo, or something else." That's not what happened. Posted by: LASue at May 05, 2014 03:48 PM (pWeX5) That's what Hume kept pushing at. Her position makes absolutely no sense. Look, I remember the whole Monica is a crazy crazy stalker and Clinton wagging his finger and oh you VWRC with daring think a president would do such a thing. And then and then and then.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (mf5HN)

96 You can usually stream Rush on your computer if you can find the station's website. Personally I can't stand the callers, so I have stopped listening to his show. The callers to various talk-shows have cured me of the need to listen to said shows. The only callers I can stand are Mark Levin's. They're usually earnest young people with interesting stories. Hannity seems to get a lot of opposing viewpoint callers. Sometimes they can even make a coherent argument!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (gtjN1)

97 Dude, that was like two years ago.

Posted by: Van Driver at May 05, 2014 12:00 PM (mvenn)

98

There may not be any aliens at Area 51 but that could be where they're keeping his real birth certificate.

Posted by: wth at May 05, 2014 12:01 PM (wAQA5)

99 The first rule of VRWC is don't talk about VRWC.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 12:01 PM (XUKZU)

100 She claims that on that Sunday, the White House and others were still confused about what happened. But evenif that were true (and it is not), thatdoesn't explain why Rice went out and said pretty definitively it was the video.

Under Harmon's theory, Rice should have said "We're confused... it could have beena pre-planned terrorist attack, aresponse to thevideo, or something else."

That's not what happened.

Posted by: LASue at May 05, 2014 03:48 PM (pWeX5)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

We concentrate on Rice and Hillary while forgetting that Baraka the Dogeater went in front  of the UN and said the very   same damn thing. 

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2014 12:01 PM (I2drx)

101 We knew the dental appointment schedule for Bush when he was in the Guard, but if we ask for a college transcript from the SCOAMF it TROOFERISM!!! We are not allowed to ask even basic questions or we are racist or conspiracy kooks (Van Jones anyone?)

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 05, 2014 12:01 PM (9Bdcz)

102 Hey AlextheChick, some anime - http://tinyurl.com/kknsslm

Of course one of the best lines ever in anime comes from Vandread, "Merge with me Mr. Space Alien!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:01 PM (mn8eY)

103 They want to talk about everything but the facts. Who changed the memo?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 12:02 PM (5aory)

104 It certainly provides a reason why Obama choose THIS video and on such short notice...and now we are seeing the right person (I forget the name) was in these meetings where they decided on blaming the video... And that "short notice" thingy? IIRC, that video had been on YourToob for months prior to being propped up as THE REASON for the embassy attack.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at May 05, 2014 12:02 PM (0HooB)

105 It's a tax yo!

Posted by: John Roberts at May 05, 2014 12:03 PM (q+zA9)

106 For vengeance or for closure now would be the time for the families of the four fallen at Benghazi to hit the airwaves hard...

Posted by: H Badger at May 05, 2014 12:03 PM (n/0Nw)

107 As a southpaw, I resent that the world is a Vast Right-handed Conspiracy. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at May 05, 2014 04:00 PM (JtwS4) How gauche.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 05, 2014 12:03 PM (PYAXX)

108 Posted by: LASue at May 05, 2014 03:48 PM (pWeX5) Yeah, the whole "We didn't have 'actionable intelligence'" line they keep spouting drives me nuts. Assuming that was true (and, based on the emails, prior warnings, requests for additional security, attack on the British Embassy, use of RPGs, clear and complex planning, etc., we know that it's not true), how do you go from "we have not yet determined the cause of the attack or groups responsible" to "It was a YouTube video!!!"? Let's ignore all available information and focus on the least politically damaging explanation for which there is no evidence. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 12:03 PM (j0wOO)

109 Well, if McConnell and Boehner are running the show it will turn out to be a... ...half-vast right wing conspiracy. (Read it out loud if you don't get it the first time)

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 05, 2014 12:03 PM (mvenn)

110 When everything is a vast rightwing conspiracy, nothing is.

Posted by: Syndrome, monologuing at May 05, 2014 12:04 PM (YxFgE)

111 Next thing you people will say is my Commie's posters are controveral All democrats have a least a Che post hanging somewhere. What's controversal about that?

Posted by: Jay Boy at May 05, 2014 12:04 PM (0FSuD)

112 I don't live on the east coast, so I am free to experience reality without a media filter. I don't live on the west coast, so my experience of reality isn't warped by a chemical soup in my brain. Where I live, reality smells like dirt, and looks like a spring ephemeral, and sounds like the soughing of a breeze through boughs.

Posted by: Criminal reactionary element with a primordial nuclide at May 05, 2014 12:04 PM (1/4XQ)

113 VRWC: attempting to convince the world that copious amounts of self tanner product make you look like a smarter leader.

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:04 PM (yRwC8)

114 Who changed the memo? Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 05, 2014 04:02 PM (5aory) And where was TFG during the attack.

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:05 PM (fWAjv)

115 And that "short notice" thingy? IIRC, that video had been on YourToob for months prior to being propped up as THE REASON for the embassy attack.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 05, 2014 04:02 PM (0HooB)

 

something like 6 or 7 months, maybe more

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 12:05 PM (q+zA9)

116 Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al Queda is on the run! Oh, an attack on our embassy? Clearly the fault of a YouTube video. It's America's fault. BRB- gotta go apologize to other countries for our actions again. Right after my trip to Vegas.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 05, 2014 12:05 PM (j0wOO)

117 "The best lie is the one you never have to offer, because you've intimidated people from asking about it at all." I don't think the media has been intimidated about questioning the way the White House handled the Benghazi incident. I think that they gladly ignore the story in order to protect "their guy". They actively help TFG to spin his failures. --- No, while they may be sympathetic with the Administration, it's the WH hammer coming down on them that causes them to back away. We've heard over and over regarding this administration.

Posted by: WisRich at May 05, 2014 12:05 PM (hdpay)

118 My wife went to prison  rather than talk about what she knew  because she liked it there.  True story. 

Posted by: Zombie Jim McDougal at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (TOk1P)

119 There may not be any aliens at Area 51 but that could be where they're keeping his real birth certificate. It was a site for testing experimental aircraft. It may house various other interesting projects. Obama's transcripts and other University miscellanea are either destroyed or in a vault somewhere, away from prying eyes.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (gtjN1)

120 VRWC: attempting to convince the world that copious amounts of self tanner product make you look like a smarter leader. Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 04:04 PM (yRwC And a couple glasses of bourbon will make your arguments more persuasive.

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (fWAjv)

121 Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 05, 2014 04:03 PM (mvenn) Well SOMEBODY thinks they are awfully clever, don't they? (OK fine I'll admit it, I LOL'd.)

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (yRwC8)

122 there aren't aliens in Area 51 They're simply undocumented life forms.

Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (FcR7P)

123 The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was just a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Verbal Kint at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (YxFgE)

124 ...half-vast right wing conspiracy.






(Read it out loud if you don't get it the first time)

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 05, 2014 04:03 PM (mvenn)

 

Sofa King Half Vast Right Wing Conspiricy....

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (q+zA9)

125 Is there no end to the Rethugglikkkaans' damage???:

@baseballcrank

RT @kerpen: As I predicted, Massachusetts was next to shut down their Obamacare exchange.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at May 05, 2014 12:06 PM (JmGFJ)

126 Sharyl Atkkisson deserves the Pulitzer Prize for her work on Benghazi and Fast and Furious. It is unlikely she will receive that or any other honors but then, what would such honors be worth anyway, coming from a modern-day Pravda?

Posted by: troyriser at May 05, 2014 12:07 PM (2jF2B)

127 "But the Lehane memo also categorized Gennifer Flowers' and Paula Jones' allegations as "conspiracy theories." And of course they were true."

What's a conspiracy theory that's actually true again? Oh yeah, a conspiracy.

"So you're saying there's a chance..."
– Lloyd Christmas

Posted by: Buckdarmha at May 05, 2014 12:07 PM (2Z20a)

128 And a couple glasses of bourbon will make your arguments more persuasive. Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:06 PM (fWAjv) It doesn't?

Posted by: Reince Priebus, getting more Cinco de Drinko at May 05, 2014 12:07 PM (yRwC8)

129 91 Just remember, Jane Harman is one of the "wise" and "serious" Democrats. The Steney Hoyer Wing as opposed to the Alan Grayson/Maxine Waters/Shelia Jackson Lee Wing. Which is a difference to be sure. Regardless, they still lie when it's required to save their party.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 05, 2014 12:07 PM (dvRYt)

130 As a southpaw, I resent that the world is a Vast Right-handed Conspiracy. Posted by: Frumious ---------------- Okay. You may be on to something there. After all, the Prez is left-handed ( I mean literally), and there is a natural bias on the part of some right-handed folks to be suspicious of leftists left-handed people.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 12:07 PM (aDwsi)

131 Going up against Hillary, Benghazi is fair game but the sad truth is anything from Clinton years is off limits. Rand Paul tried it a few months back with the "Bill had a war on women" and it went over like a lead balloon.

Posted by: Kong at May 05, 2014 12:08 PM (8TbWa)

132 The administration themselves said in the e-mail that the video should be pushed so the attack was not seen as a policy failure. They know it's a policy failure. They made no attempt to protect the ambassador and the embassy. They repeatedly lied and tried to cover things up for purely political partisan purposes. And now everybody else is CRAZY who thinks that something fishy went on. Gaslight anyone?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2014 12:08 PM (XyM/Y)

133 And of course the establishment will buy into this, and sell us down the river, instead of actually taking down a Democrat President.

Posted by: Iblis at May 05, 2014 12:08 PM (9221z)

134 Integrity is an endangered species.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:08 PM (IXrOn)

135 Yeah, the whole "We didn't have 'actionable intelligence'" line they keep spouting drives me nuts. That's the part that's driving me insane. First- yes, they did have intelligence. I suppose they might claim what they had was not "actionable" but that's a purely subjective statement and, in retrospect, what they had *should have been* actionable. Second- even without specific "actionable" intelligence, they had months worth of requests for more security, security incidents, and warnings about general instability in the region. "Actionable intelligence" is a complete red herring. The consulate in Benghazi did not meet the minimum security standards as laid out by the State Department for such facilities. While there is a general waiver on those requirements for a temporary facility, the facility had been there long enough that the only way for that waiver to have continued would be for the Secretary of State specifically to have affirmatively authorized the lower security.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 05, 2014 12:08 PM (PYAXX)

136 Okay. You may be on to something there. After all, the Prez is left-handed ( I mean literally), and there is a natural bias on the part of some right-handed folks to be suspicious of leftists left-handed people. Don't lefties have a significantly shorter lifespan than righties? IIRC ~5 years on average.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:09 PM (gtjN1)

137 (as an off topic) It's virtually impossible to get a comment posted at the NYTimes. Wow. Intolerant Filter set to High.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:09 PM (IXrOn)

138   84 Best lie I ever told, 'That's right, baby. I'll respect you in the morning."
*
*
One the top 3, along with:

"The check is in the mail," and

"Honest, honey, I won't c*m in your mouth."


Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 05, 2014 12:10 PM (yQq8A)

139 and there is a natural bias on the part of some right-handed folks to be suspicious of leftists left-handed people. That's because we can shake hands & comfortably shank you at the same time.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 05, 2014 12:10 PM (WPhwX)

140 Why be competent? All you have to do is snap a picture of HRC in shades checking her phone on a flight and start "bad ass mama" meme. Instant credibility!

Posted by: Kong at May 05, 2014 12:10 PM (8TbWa)

141 Hume pressed Harman to name a single person in the administration who credibly believed that the Benghazi attack was connected to an anti-Islam video. Predictably, she could not do so. “Ben Rhodes talks about the video five times in this memo, five times,” host Chris Wallace interjected. I watched this on reruns late last night and to be fair the transcript is leaving out Harmon's response to Britt. I believe she said, "I...I...I...I...I...Uh."

Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 12:10 PM (K+k8M)

142 Lots of us died when Hilary  was mad at Bill,  but does anybody care?  No. No  they don't. 

Posted by: Zombie White House Lamps at May 05, 2014 12:10 PM (TOk1P)

143 The Obama Administration is Charles Boyer. We're Ingrid Bergman. You're crazy, dear. You're imagining things. You need to rest.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (XyM/Y)

144 It's worth remembering that in 1994 a Chris Lehane-drafted memo conjured up the menace of the "vast rightwing conspiracy" by essentially claiming that any and all derogatory reports on Bill and Hillary Clinton were "conspiracy theories." And Since 2008, many Republicans borrowed a page out of their book by asserting that anyone who had questions regarding the legitimacy of Obama's citizenship status was a "Conspiracy Nut." No other motivation was allowed, if you questioned Obama's citizenship or "natural born" status, you were the equivalent of someone who believed in "Conspiracy theories." The suggestion that it was just Obama and his cronies lying about stuff wasn't allowed. It had to be a "Conspiracy Theory" because why else would you be questioning Obama's legitimacy? For what it's worth, i'm still not convinced he's even a citizen, and I am absolutely convinced that he's not a "natural born citizen" as the founders meant the term in 1787. (One cannot be a "natural citizen" if a law subsequent to 1787 s required to grant citizenship.) But at this point, the entire issue is moot.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (bb5+k)

145 FTSB Art imitates life: "You know, it's funny, Smithers. I tried every tincture and poultice and tonic and patent medicine there is, and all I really needed was the blood of a young boy."

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (QupBk)

146 so the media is just going to keep reporting on the emperor's clothes and deny those crazy nudity truther rumors...

Posted by: azjaeger at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (0sDl3)

147 131 Going up against Hillary, Benghazi is fair game but the sad truth is anything from Clinton years is off limits. Rand Paul tried it a few months back with the "Bill had a war on women" and it went over like a lead balloon. Posted by: Kong at May 05, 2014 04:08 PM (8TbWa) But Reagan was the Teflon president? Please. And pretty soon Benghazi will even be considered gauche to talk about, if the GOP lets the media trying to elect Hillary have their way. (Which is all of them.)

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (yRwC8)

148  Hume pressed Harman to name a single person in the administration who credibly believed that the Benghazi attack was connected to an anti-Islam video. Predictably, she could not do so.

“Ben Rhodes talks about the video five times in this memo, five times,” host Chris Wallace interjected.
***

Maybe they could ask then Sec of State Ol' Piano Legs about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6akGlF6g-Zw


Posted by: B at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (VC56G)

149 "Honest, honey, I won't c*m in your mouth." Dunno why guys who promise this still have a dingus after they break said promise.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (gtjN1)

150 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 05, 2014 04:08 PM (PYAXX) Indeed, actionable intelligence is about breaking up a specific attack. This was largely the result of a general failure of security. Would the attack have still happened? Possibly (hard to tell if strengthened security would have prevented it) but the chances of loosing an ambassador and 3 others goes way down.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (a8eFL)

151 The VRWC was missed like the Soviet Union was missed. FML, those fuckers are back too...sigh

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (my0dy)

152 Don't lefties have a significantly shorter lifespan than righties? IIRC ~5 years on average. Thanks to right-handed power tools.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (WPhwX)

153 http://tinyurl.com/qem2r52 You know what I like about this picture? The cute Carolina Blue PJ's my wife has on. Do you think they make ass look fat?

Posted by: Jay Boy at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (0FSuD)

154 Sharyl Atkkisson deserves the Pulitzer Prize for her work on Benghazi and Fast and Furious. It is unlikely she will receive that or any other honors but then, what would such honors be worth anyway, coming from a modern-day Pravda? Posted by: troyriser at May 05, 2014 04:07 PM (2jF2B) Honestly. Decent people should start recognition awards outside of the left's circle. They simply pat each other on the back, passing reward money from one to the other, even if not deserved (see Couric).

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:11 PM (IXrOn)

155 But what does this have to do with gun violence?

Ban guns!!!!!

Posted by: Moms Demanding Attention at May 05, 2014 12:12 PM (dBV5N)

156 "We didn't have 'actionable intelligence'" = "We couldn't think of a better lie on short notice."

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 12:12 PM (XUKZU)

157 Obama was too tired or disinterested to make a decision, and rebuffed the initial contact. Shrillary and Biteme didn't want their names on any decision either way (political viability doncha know) and never called him back after the initial contact and the initial (vague) response of the Prez. They could always say "Obama was contacted and made his decision." Generals arent going to exceed civilian authority an order a rescue mission without WH approval. So good people died, especially the heroic SEALS who took it upon themselves to show initiative. In this context, I think the Repubs are missing the central issues of malfeasance, abandoning our countrymen and failing to excercise leadership, by focusing too much on who-blamed-what on the video. Even as to the video I think they miss the main point, which is an American President throwing the concept of free speech under the bus based on the (false) premise that it "sparked" violence.

Posted by: NYC Parent at May 05, 2014 12:12 PM (HEo6y)

158 152 Don't lefties have a significantly shorter lifespan than righties? IIRC ~5 years on average. Well let's hope so. Obama's a leftie.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2014 12:12 PM (0FSuD)

159 That piano jamming elephant in the sidebar is bopping his head and the other one is shaking her ass. It's a pretty good video and the music isn't bad either.

Posted by: Pugs of Zion at May 05, 2014 12:12 PM (8c12T)

160 Thanks to right-handed power tools. Posted by: rickb223 at May 05, 2014 04:11 PM (WPhwX) I lol'd.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:12 PM (IXrOn)

161 Yes.... Where was Teh JEF during the course of the attack? What could have been more important that Benghazi? Your supposed friend is in dire straights and screaming for his life, along with others and you've got something better to do? Disgrace. If this is what he thinks of his friends, just think what he would let happen to us mouth breathers.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 05, 2014 12:13 PM (32Ze2)

162 Wtf? C*m is baby batter. You use it to make babies. What is wrong with you people?

Posted by: Criminal reactionary element with a primordial nuclide at May 05, 2014 12:13 PM (1/4XQ)

163 If you are recieving flak you know you are over the target. The Dems are scared to death as they thought they had swept this all under the rug long ago until the KABOOM eating van driver turned national security spokesman Dude flapped his pie hole on Brett Baiers show. Go get 'em Gowdy and stay on target!

Posted by: alf767 at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (wE/DP)

164 I still want to punch Lehane in his crapweasel face for that article where he does the hell yeah I would have written it again and then does the whole oh I didn't mean there were actual conspiracies wink wink nudge nudge. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 05, 2014 03:40 PM (mf5HN) No no no no... Nothing Obama does in the way of lying about shit to further his own political goals can be called a "conspiracy", because conspiracies are all nutty and shit. A Chicago Mafioso thug never does anything conspiratorial.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (bb5+k)

165

Avenge me!

 

Wait... I died because I was a fatass, not because  of any conspiracy... right?

Posted by: Zombie Les Aspin at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (TOk1P)

166 154 Sharyl Atkkisson deserves the Pulitzer Prize for her work on Benghazi and Fast and Furious. It is unlikely she will receive that or any other honors but then, what would such honors be worth anyway, coming from a modern-day Pravda? Posted by: troyriser at May 05, 2014 04:07 PM (2jF2B) Atkkisson's award is that we allow her to still live. What more do you peons want?

Posted by: Progressive controlled media, now with more NSA! at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (yRwC8)

167

there aren't aliens in Area 51

...

Too dry to landscape?

Posted by: wth at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (wAQA5)

168 I lol'd. Me too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (0HooB)

169 Yes.... Where was Teh JEF during the course of the attack? What could have been more important that Benghazi? Your supposed friend is in dire straights and screaming for his life, along with others and you've got something better to do? Disgrace. If this is what he thinks of his friends, just think what he would let happen to us mouth breathers..... Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 05, 2014 04:13 PM (32Ze2) Practicing "folks" and "let me be clear" with Spielberg, it sounds like.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:14 PM (IXrOn)

170 You're right LizLem.
I was recently attacked as a misogynist for daring to suggest that HRC's time at state was a disaster, and it is our moral obligation to elect a woman. A good turnaround on that is to ask who they'd vote for in a Bachman vs. Cuomo 2016 contest.

Posted by: Kong at May 05, 2014 12:15 PM (8TbWa)

171 Hey AlextheChick, some anime - http://tinyurl.com/kknsslm Of course one of the best lines ever in anime comes from Vandread, "Merge with me Mr. Space Alien!" Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 04:01 PM (mn8eY) Oh those are grand. I'm stuck on this, and maybe I'm wrong, but if this happened under a Republican president, I'm pretty sure everyone here would be howling and screaming to know what went wrong and why it went wrong and, heaven forfend, such lies were put forth, we would be screaming for the President to resign. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we would be all Team Elephant. I don't know. I hope not, I truly hope not.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 05, 2014 12:15 PM (mf5HN)

172 Don't lefties have a significantly shorter lifespan than righties? IIRC ~5 years on average. I've heard it's because of our accident rate. Chainsaws would be a good example. It's dangerous to use them left-handed and it's dangerous to use them right-handed when that's not how you normally stand.

Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2014 12:15 PM (FcR7P)

173

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?

 

Could we set that up?

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at May 05, 2014 12:15 PM (3ZtZW)

174 I am dead, aren't I? 

Posted by: Zombie Robert Reichchchchchchchchuh at May 05, 2014 12:15 PM (TOk1P)

175 When a Dem says "We didn't have any actionable intelligence", the word 'actionable' is superfluous. "We didn't have any intelligence." That just has more of the ring of truth to it.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 05, 2014 12:16 PM (mvenn)

176 If this is a conspiracy I want a code name

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2014 12:16 PM (Ua6T/)

177 Don't lefties have a significantly shorter lifespan than righties? IIRC ~5 years on average.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2014 04:09 PM (gtjN1)

 

 

----------------------------------------

 

 

So, with lefties, which hand generally ends up smelling like anchovies.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2014 12:16 PM (I2drx)

178 149 "Honest, honey, I won't c*m in your mouth."

Dunno why guys who promise this still have a dingus after they break said promise.
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That, or flattened danglers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 05, 2014 12:16 PM (yQq8A)

179 To some degree, thatÂ’s successful, but I think primarily among those that donÂ’t want to look at this as a story in the first place. -- Sharyl Attkisson 1. Say nothing; see nothing; do nothing. Monkeys 2. If they eye offend thee, pluck it out. Matthew 5:29 and 18:9 3. The better to see you with, my dear. B.B.Wolf Like it or not, Benghazi is a story that any American who presumes to care about our enlisted men and women can NOT ignore (at this point, "diplomatic immunity" ain't so popular stateside, being abused on the same obscene scale as kiddy porn by those in authority). No matter all the wishful thinking: IF ONLY the dead would just stfu and follow Long John Silver's rules of pirate engagement: dead men tell no tales. Watch the Democrats skew Benghazi on to another Blame Bush whine, that Unprecedented Bammer "inherited" the Interventionist black ops CIA gun running ... 3-- 2-- 1

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:17 PM (gmrH5)

180 So, with lefties, which hand generally ends up smelling like anchovies. Hers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 05, 2014 12:17 PM (WPhwX)

181 I'm dead...... or am I......

Posted by: Abe Vigoda's Penis at May 05, 2014 12:17 PM (32Ze2)

182 VRWC - Release the Kraken.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at May 05, 2014 12:17 PM (oDCMR)

183 I used to kind of respect Jane Harman but after yesterday to hell with that old bint.  Party over country, right Jane?

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 05, 2014 12:18 PM (jtYTF)

184 When a Dem says "We didn't have any actionable intelligence", the word 'actionable' is superfluous. Yeah, "OMG! WE'RE UNDER ATTACK11!!1" isn't actionable at all. Is it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at May 05, 2014 12:18 PM (0HooB)

185 Don't lefties have a significantly shorter lifespan than righties? IIRC ~5 years on average. Posted by: bonhomme --------------- Really? I wasn't aware of that, assuming that it is so. If it is, then there is slam-dunk grant money waiting on someone.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 12:19 PM (aDwsi)

186 News people covering the White House and their husbands/wives/sisters/brothers working for the administration would rather report propaganda than sell newspapers. Somehow these clowns in the Press Briefing room think they're immune from economic consequences, and they couldn't care less about mythic ideas of being "journalists".

You can bet that they'll be writing books, bragging about how they duped the American people. Since there'll be no consequences, other than turning a once great country into a socialist $h!th0l3, the LIVs and FSAs will never know because they don't read.

Posted by: Hadoop at May 05, 2014 12:19 PM (Ph479)

187 Obviously this situation calls for more BullShit and we're just the gang to provide it.

Posted by: Team D[/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:19 PM (DL2i+)

188 63 They figure the birth certificate issue was such a stunning victory it can be used to discredit any criticism. Oh and a large stunningly misinformed/ignorant/disconnected portion of the electorate helps too. Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 05, 2014 03:51 PM (dvRYt) Well sure. If you can get bi-partisan ridicule in stereo, that's a pretty good accomplishment.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:20 PM (bb5+k)

189 There were, no soldiers or airmen coming Obama saying lie for me Send Rice out, blame a video Four dead in Benghazi

Posted by: teej at May 05, 2014 12:21 PM (M7Cfv)

190 Posted by: Kong at May 05, 2014 04:15 PM (8TbWa) *pets* Sorry you were called that; when silly lefties have no more arguments they resort to name calling, like a child. >>> it is our moral obligation to elect a woman. Dana Perino had an excellent line on Ace's podcast dealing with that..something about the idea of someone feeling obligated to have a female press secretary was offensive to her, because you are crippling any woman taking that job before they even get hired. Hire on merit first, everything else second. Same with the Pres job. Funny how the left reveres MLK yet they never, ever manage to practice what he preached.

Posted by: Progressive controlled media, now with more NSA! at May 05, 2014 12:21 PM (yRwC8)

191 Yeah, "OMG! WE'RE UNDER ATTACK11!!1" isn't actionable at all. Is it? Drone 1: We have a drone directly above the site, sending us live video. Politician: There's too many unknowns, we can't act on this. Drone 1: What about two former SEALs relaying us information from the ground? Politician: I'm not risking my career over this. Where's the President? Drone 1: *shakes magic 8 ball*

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 12:21 PM (gtjN1)

192 MFM on 9/11/2001: "MY PET GOAT!!!!!" MFM on 9/11/2012: "iPad!", "Mulitask!", "The residence".

Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 12:22 PM (j0wOO)

193 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 05, 2014 04:18 PM (0HooB) Local Fire Department doesn't send trucks if they don't think they'll get there in time. (kidding. But that is what their excuse for not sending help comes down to.)

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:22 PM (fWAjv)

194 If this is a conspiracy I want a code name - Operation Shelter In Place.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 12:22 PM (XUKZU)

195 Obama was too busy doing debate prep- to prep for a debate in which he would say what a success his foreign policy was and that Al Quada was on the run.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2014 12:23 PM (XyM/Y)

196 190. Funny how the left reveres MLK yet they never, ever manage to practice what he preached. =and my brain read (that^) the left reverses MLK.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:23 PM (gmrH5)

197 Even as to the video I think they miss the main point, which is an American President throwing the concept of free speech under the bus based on the (false) premise that it "sparked" violence.

YES! 

Notice that it wasn't just any old video they chose to blame it all on -- it was a Bigot Video.

The Left has made bigotry-eradication its No. 1 all-time, all-consuming agenda item.  They LOVE to talk about instances of bigotry.  It's their dead horse -- they'll beat it whenever they get a chance. 

Here, they had an opportunity to change the conversation -- from talk about embassy security and arming-the-Libyan-rebels into yet another conversation about ... racism. 

Or, something like racism, at least. 

They tried to explain the attack/murder by saying that racism was the ROOT CAUSE, and ended up over-stating that explanation -- that racism was the IMMEDIATE cause. 

But, since there never was a protest in Benghazi at all, that explanation fell apart. 

Posted by: Phinn at May 05, 2014 12:23 PM (i5GO4)

198 Fer sher. The only person who claimed to have seen the actual certificate was also the only person to die in the crash of a light plane on an inter-island hop in Hawaii. *a single tear rolls down his face-- sniffs--she will be missed* http://preview.tinyurl.com/pm45ttg

Posted by: Criminal reactionary element with a primordial nuclide at May 05, 2014 12:23 PM (1/4XQ)

199 "legitimate confusion"," the video was in Egypt and nobody really knew what the facts were."

Obvious next move?

Lock up the film maker for being all free speechy.

And shit.


United States of F'n Guatemala.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 12:23 PM (5ikDv)

200 194 If this is a conspiracy I want a code name - Operation Shelter In Place. Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 04:22 PM (XUKZU) How about "Workplace Violence"

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2014 12:23 PM (0FSuD)

201 What WAS he doing as I was being sodimized and dragged around the streets of Benghazi? I am just a little curious.

Posted by: Christopher Stevens at May 05, 2014 12:24 PM (32Ze2)

202 Amnesty for Area 51. Those little green men are dying to vote Republican.

Posted by: John Boehner at May 05, 2014 12:24 PM (wAQA5)

203 Just for beginners I would love to be introduced to the upwards of 20-30 some witnesses that the Administration has whisked away from contact with anyone and be brought up to speed on what it took for them to keep their mouths shut.

Posted by: H Badger at May 05, 2014 12:24 PM (n/0Nw)

204 Al Quada was on the run. /heh, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck./

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:24 PM (gmrH5)

205

@80 Oh, and fire Sharyl Atkinson and Lara Logan, because they keep reporting on a non-story

--------------------

 

Logan was the 60 Minutes reporter, correct?  She had bad luck because the guy she interviewed isn't a credible witness.  His story doesn't match up with the generally accepted chain of events (something I quickly realized when I watched the interview).  And unfortunately for her, that was used as an excuse to drop the hammer on her.

If the Benghazi story starts to gain more traction despite the administration's best efforts, I suspect that guy is going to be trotted out and used in an attempt to tar anyone and everyone who supports continuing to look into this.  "See, you can't trust what anyone is saying about Benghazi!"

 

 

Posted by: junior at May 05, 2014 12:25 PM (UWFpX)

206 Even as to the video I think they miss the main point, which is an American President throwing the concept of free speech under the bus based on the (false) premise that it "sparked" violence. Posted by: NYC Parent Someone, I think it might have been Judge Jeanine on Fox reminded me of the initial problem with the attacks that I had forgotten after all this time and so many lies: Before the attacks had even finished Hillary put out a statement about the video. Right after the four were dead Hillary and Obama appeared in a specially produced video shown in the ME condemning the you tube video where they said no one should insult Islam but try not to kill people if they do because the USA will deal with them. THEN Obama gave his speech weeks later at the UN denouncing attacks on Islam. WHAT FUCKING SIDE ARE THEY ON??? Americans were murdered and Obama and Hill are apologizing? Think about that mindset.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 12:25 PM (p0TaU)

207

>>>Operation Shelter In Place.

 

If you're in NJ anyway

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at May 05, 2014 12:25 PM (3ZtZW)

208 >>> 194 If this is a conspiracy I want a code name Operation CYA?

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:25 PM (yRwC8)

209 The only intelligence asset consulted was the "Osama Bin Laden is dead and AL Queda is on the run" campaign line.

Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 12:25 PM (j0wOO)

210 =and my brain read (that^) the left reverses MLK. Posted by: panzernashorn --------------- And my brain read that as KLM. Something to do with aging..., that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Maybe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 12:25 PM (aDwsi)

211

Fox News Sunday

Host Chris Wallace: "The top Libyan official says that the attack on Tuesday was, quote, his words ‘preplanned.’ Al-Qaida says the operation was revenge for our killing a top al-Qaida leader. What do we know?"

Rice: "Well, first of all, Chris, we are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation. The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a pre-planned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control.

"But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack. Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don't want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it's important for the American people to know our best current assessment

Posted by: LASue at May 05, 2014 12:26 PM (pWeX5)

212 actionable intelligence to actionable confusion 199.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:26 PM (gmrH5)

213 &203 I'd also like to know how the executive can bar them from speaking to congress?

Posted by: Kreplach at May 05, 2014 12:26 PM (bd38m)

214 Amnesty for Area 51. Those little green men are dying to vote Republican. - They're Americans already.

Posted by: Li'l Joey Boo Boo at May 05, 2014 12:26 PM (XUKZU)

215 Rhodes Brothers lying again: "Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims" CBS - Fake but accurate.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at May 05, 2014 12:27 PM (vxavs)

216 I'd also like to know how the executive can bar them from speaking to congress? Posted by: Kreplach at May 05, 2014 04:26 PM (bd38m) _____________ Because RAYCISSSSSSS.... that's why.

Posted by: Christopher Stevens at May 05, 2014 12:27 PM (32Ze2)

217 210 Mike, KLM Royal Dutch Airline?

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:28 PM (gmrH5)

218 "Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims" - Not a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 12:28 PM (XUKZU)

219 If this is a conspiracy I want a code name

Go away, batin'!

Posted by: Hadoop at May 05, 2014 12:28 PM (Ph479)

220 Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (p0TaU) Exactly what I've been saying. Setting aside, for a second, the constant lies, the deaths, the failure to send help, the memos... IN 18 months SINCE the attack, the ONLY action the Administration has taken was to arrest the YouTube guy.

Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 12:29 PM (j0wOO)

221 Watch the Democrats skew Benghazi on to another Blame Bush whine, that Unprecedented Bammer "inherited" the Interventionist black ops CIA gun running ... 3-- 2-- 1 Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 04:17 PM (gmrH5) Obama hasn't had much luck with his gun running, either in Syria or Mexico. Always seems to backfire somehow.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:29 PM (bb5+k)

222 215 Rhodes Brothers lying again: "Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims" CBS - Fake but accurate. Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at May 05, 2014 04:27 PM (vxavs) You're shittin' me?!?

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:31 PM (fWAjv)

223 Tasteless Self-revelation Dept.: my one day off today, my kids are outta state, my folks live 240 miles away, and Trixie won't come over, so I'm gonna fix a steak, drink some red wine, and a watch an Israeli movie I haven't seen for a while. Y'all have fun, too! Best wishes, 'rons 'n' 'ronettes, wher'er you are!

Posted by: Criminal reactionary element with a primordial nuclide at May 05, 2014 12:31 PM (1/4XQ)

224 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we would be all Team Elephant Remember Miers and amnesty my queen? We were all shouty about those. Our 'team' doesn't do lockstep like the commies.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 05, 2014 12:31 PM (9Bdcz)

225 214 Amnesty for Area 51. Those little green men are dying to vote Republican. - They're Americans already. Posted by: Li'l Joey Boo Boo at May 05, 2014 04:26 PM (XUKZU) Yup. Some of us are even Congresspeople.

Posted by: Dennis Kucinich and Henry Waxman at May 05, 2014 12:31 PM (j0wOO)

226

>>>Host Chris Wallace: "The top Libyan official says that the attack on Tuesday was, quote, his words ‘preplanned.’ Al-Qaida says the operation was revenge for our killing a top al-Qaida leader. What do we know?"

 

Yup. That's the point where they damned themselves. If they'd just said YES it was a pre-planned attack, unfortunately we didn't have anything close by that could help those poor men or something similar we wouldn't be watching the weaselfest we have now. It would've sucked and hopefully started some real changes in security, but it would've ended there
I bet.

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at May 05, 2014 12:31 PM (3ZtZW)

227 United Arab Emirates sentences a woman to death by stoning for adultery. Seems fair. See Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 12:31 PM (XUKZU)

228 Operation Love Reggie Love (shaken not stirred).

Posted by: alf767 at May 05, 2014 12:32 PM (wE/DP)

229 "Obvious next move? Lock up the film maker for being all free speechy. And shit. United States of F'n Guatemala." Don't I wish. The President there can do stuff and take action on his own. Like China.

Posted by: Preznit FoShizzle at May 05, 2014 12:32 PM (gOoFi)

230 And my brain read that as KLM. Something to do with aging..., that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Maybe. Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (aDwsi) Is there a trip to the Netherlands in someone's future via KLM? 'Cause if you are going there to partake of certain local horticultural products, I fear you will be disappointed; selling to tourists is now supposedly a no-no. So they say.

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:32 PM (yRwC8)

231 and there was never any JournOlisters either.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2014 12:33 PM (nqBYe)

232 Rice: "Well, first of all, Chris, we are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation. The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was [yada, yada yada]. 211. FOX News = And there it is, as plain as the nose on your face that you choose not to see. Exactly what "The FBI" amounts to with regards to truth and accountability on record.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:33 PM (gmrH5)

233 "IN 18 months SINCE the attack, the ONLY action the Administration has taken was to arrest the YouTube guy."

Obama did say he "would not rest" until the perpetrators had been brought to justice. He has since gone on to implement the O.J. Simpson strategy of aggressively searching for them on golf courses.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 12:33 PM (noWW6)

234 SOP for President Dumbass and the Progs: All. Politics. All. The. Time. First order of business for newly-minted Republican Congress should be to impeach that lying POS over Benghazi. At the very least he should be so diminished that he's forced to resign just like Nixon.

Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at May 05, 2014 12:33 PM (9FgZN)

235 I shit you not. CBS is all in on doing the criminal deeds. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/republicans-benghazi-emails_n_3289428.html

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at May 05, 2014 12:33 PM (vxavs)

236 and Barak really didn't have He was born in Kenya on his book jacket. all made up by birthers.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2014 12:33 PM (nqBYe)

237 So CBS is pushing a 'Republicans altered the memos' story from 2013 for the dumb ass LIV's to lap up.

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:34 PM (fWAjv)

238 Obama did say he "would not rest" until the perpetrators had been brought to justice. He has since gone on to implement the O.J. Simpson strategy of aggressively searching for them on golf courses. - Let's hope it works out as well for him as it did for OJ.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 12:34 PM (XUKZU)

239 "Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims" CBS - Fake but accurate. Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at May 05, 2014 04:27 PM (vxavs) You're shittin' me?!? Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:31 PM (fWAjv) If it's true, it's just more evidence that we need to pry the microphones out of the hands of Liberal Propaganda troops.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:35 PM (bb5+k)

240 If this is a conspiracy I want a code name Operation What Difference Does A Blood Clot Make

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:35 PM (IXrOn)

241 I realize facts are stubborn things. But apparently Democrats believe they are delusional. That explains a lot.

Let's see how this works out in November. along with all those people who didn't lose their healthcare and the record number of people who no longer count in the denominator for unemployment everything should be just peachy for Democrats- right?  

Posted by: Marcus T at May 05, 2014 12:35 PM (GGCsk)

242 Sources: 15 days after Benghazi attack, FBI still investigating from afar
By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 11:52 AM EDT, Thu September 27, 2012


Fuck these lying fucks.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 12:35 PM (5ikDv)

243 Teh JEF will never be impeached and he doesn't have the moral compass to know he should resign.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 05, 2014 12:35 PM (32Ze2)

244 "Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims" Wow, the White House really aced its strategic game with David Rhodes getting appointed president of CBS News. I'll bet his brother Ben over at the WH Communications Department gets a nice raise out of this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 12:35 PM (8ZskC)

245

>>>selling to tourists is now supposedly a no-no. So they say.

 

So you're saying its like underage high school drinking, where you hang outside a store and acost strangers to buy you a six?

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (3ZtZW)

246 235 I shit you not. CBS is all in on doing the criminal deeds. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/republicans-benghazi-emails_n_3289428.html Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (vxavs) "Updated: 05/05/2014 12:59 pm EDT" When an article is updated don't most point out the part of the article that is updated. Lying fuckers.

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (fWAjv)

247 so what do you do when your embassy is attcked? nothing because hey we aren't sure WHY it was attacked, so we just let em attack nd Then we don't go get the evidence nor the papers and files of contacts, or Information that might be liein around , that might get others harmed. but we DO arrest a video guy for cover, AND we tell americans to shut the fk up that's not correct speech .

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (nqBYe)

248 We really need to consider putting the financial hurt on the MSM. These guys aren't going to stop until the funds dry up.

Posted by: Iblis at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (9221z)

249 more...

(CNN) -- More than two weeks after four Americans -- including the U.S. ambassador to Libya -- were killed in an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, FBI agents have not yet been granted access to investigate in the eastern Libyan city, and the crime scene has not been secured, sources said.


Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (5ikDv)

250 So CBS is pushing a 'Republicans altered the memos' story from 2013 for the dumb ass LIV's to lap up. Waiting for someone, anyone on our side to stand up and say, "Really? How?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (0HooB)

251 Obama did say he "would not rest" until the perpetrators had been brought to justice. He has since gone on to implement the O.J. Simpson strategy of aggressively searching for them on golf courses. Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (noWW6) YouTube Guy is in prison and I apologized to Muslim leaders for the actions of Americans in insulting the Prophet. Job's done. Time for another vacation.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 05, 2014 12:36 PM (j0wOO)

252 Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims ------------------ Well..., that's weird. Having read the CBS piece, it isn't clear to me what the differences are, why they came about, and what difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 12:37 PM (aDwsi)

253 Is there a trip to the Netherlands in someone's future via KLM? 'Cause if you are going there to partake of certain local horticultural products, I fear you will be disappointed; selling to tourists is now supposedly a no-no. So they say. Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 04:32 PM (yRwC I've been told that they reversed that. Apparently they were missing all the money that the foreign potheads were bringing in.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:37 PM (bb5+k)

254 Dude, Cass Sunstein wrote a chapter or a book about this. That commie fuck asswipe Michael Medved just had Cass on his talk show. He was licking his commie balls. Medved puts forth he's a conservative.

Posted by: Republique De Banana at May 05, 2014 12:37 PM (thLL8)

255 and there was never any JournOlisters either. **shiftyeyes**

Posted by: CabaList at May 05, 2014 12:37 PM (QupBk)

256 If it's true, it's just more evidence that we need to pry the microphones out of the hands of Liberal Propaganda troops. Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 04:35 PM (bb5+k) Chop off their hands, cut out their tongues and gouge out their eyes is too good.

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 12:38 PM (fWAjv)

257 I am old enough to remember the "non-denial denials" put out by the Nixon White House as Impeachment approached.

We get a lot of that here lately.  They don't come out with a straight denial.  They say stuff like "That's absurd!"  "That's crazy talk."  "That's a conspiracy theory."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 05, 2014 12:38 PM (V70Uh)

258 Yeah. I just saw that. God it's so hard to keep track of what is going on. By design, I'm sure.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at May 05, 2014 12:38 PM (vxavs)

259 42 Oh, and Jane Harman looks like she'd melt if you threw water on her. But, War on Wymmin and all that. Posted by: joncelli at May 05, 2014 03:46 PM (RD7QR) Oh, man, much-needed comic relief.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2014 12:38 PM (2AqeI)

260 I can't wait till Hume asks where choom-boy was and Hillary screams "WHAT DIFFERENCE, AT THIS POINT DOES IT MAKE!!!!"

Posted by: small town girl at May 05, 2014 12:38 PM (ImQSs)

261 First order of business for newly-minted Republican Congress should be to impeach that lying POS over Benghazi. At the very least he should be so diminished that he's forced to resign just like Nixon. Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (9FgZN) You drastically overestimate his sense of shame.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:38 PM (bb5+k)

262

These asshats.

If there is no conspiracy, why are the survivors silenced? And what were all the spooks doing in the neighborhood that night?

 

(I know, its been asked before)

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at May 05, 2014 12:39 PM (X3xYu)

263 I smoked pot in Amsterdam long, long ago. Then I wandered to a McSnack, a McDonald's franchise that only operated a walk-up window, right outside of the red light district. Best double cheeseburger I've ever had.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 05, 2014 12:39 PM (ZshNr)

264 Now that its blowing up more  who is going to be blamed now, do you think? Like, one or two people who have to resign with full pay or whatever.

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at May 05, 2014 12:40 PM (3ZtZW)

265 243 Teh JEF will never be impeached and he doesn't have the moral compass to know he should resign. Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 05, 2014 04:35 PM (32Ze2) Exactly right.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:40 PM (bb5+k)

266 we also were not looking at Your emails or listening in on your calls

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2014 12:40 PM (nqBYe)

267

Can someone let Ace know this is on Page 12 of the white paper listed in post 51

 

Conspiracy cascades, 2: the role of reputation

. Conspiracy theories do not take

hold only because of information. Sometimes people profess belief in a conspiracy

theory, or at least suppress their doubts, because they seek to curry favor. Reputational

pressures help account for conspiracy theories, and they feed conspiracy cascades.

In a reputational cascade, people think that they know what is right, or what is likely

to be right, but they nonetheless go along with the crowd in order to maintain the good

opinion of others. Suppose that Albert suggests that the Central Intelligence Agency was

responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy, and that Barbara concurs with

Albert, not because she actually thinks that Albert is right, but because she does not wish

to seem, to Albert, to be some kind of dupe. If Albert and Barbara say that the CIA was

responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy, Cynthia might not contradict

them publicly and might even appear to share their judgment -- not because she believes

that judgment to be correct, but because she does not want to face their hostility or lose

their good opinion. It should be easy to see how this process might generate a cascade.

Once Albert, Barbara, and Cynthia offer a united front on the issue, their friend David

 

 

Obvious Sock here, So the revers is also true?

Someone can call something a conspiracy even though it is not and the above indicates

 

or am I off my rocker?

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 12:40 PM (q+zA9)

268

@249 (CNN) -- More than two weeks after four Americans --
including the U.S. ambassador to Libya -- were killed in an attack on
the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, FBI agents have not yet been granted
access to investigate in the eastern Libyan city, and the crime scene
has not been secured, sources said.

 

------------------------

 

iirc, that was because the head of the Libyan government got ticked off that the White House contradicted him after he claimed that the Benghazi attack was pre-planned.

 

Posted by: junior at May 05, 2014 12:40 PM (UWFpX)

269 @263 BK's dollar menu double cheeseburger is pretty damn good at night.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2014 12:40 PM (0FSuD)

270 First order of business for newly-minted Republican Congress should be to impeach that lying POS over Benghazi. At the very least he should be so diminished that he's forced to resign just like Nixon. The JEF has issued an EO that the word 'Dignity' be eliminated from all dictionaries.

Posted by: Republique De Banana at May 05, 2014 12:41 PM (thLL8)

271 Snikes, sorry for the wall of text....

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at May 05, 2014 12:41 PM (q+zA9)

272 Hey youse corgis!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:41 PM (mn8eY)

273 The burger was ordinary.  The pot made it taste better.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 05, 2014 12:41 PM (V70Uh)

274 Last Thursday, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters that an FBI team had reached Libya earlier in the week.

"In fairness to the secretary, it may be that she wanted to be coy about where they were in Libya for security concerns. That's understandable. But the fact is, it's not clear they've been in Libya for very long," Townsend said on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360°."

"In fairness to the secretary..."

*dry heaves*

Bitch said the FBI was "in Libya" .


HILLARY 2016

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 12:41 PM (5ikDv)

275 248 We really need to consider putting the financial hurt on the MSM. These guys aren't going to stop until the funds dry up. Posted by: Iblis at May 05, 2014 04:36 PM (9221z) Ding ding ding! We need to burn them down financially if it is at all possible.

Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 12:42 PM (bb5+k)

276

>>>a walk-up window, right outside of the red light district. Best double cheeseburger I've ever had.

 

Won't be funny to you or anything, but I had a guy insist he contracted gonorrhea from a cheeseburger during an interview, so you have me chuckling now...

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at May 05, 2014 12:42 PM (3ZtZW)

277 Nood.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 12:42 PM (noWW6)

278 Have they cloned Gowdy yet to cover the IRS scandal too?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (IXrOn)

279 We really need to consider putting the financial hurt on the MSM. These guys aren't going to stop until the funds dry up. From what I know, they get paid anyway, the way Cable TV is set up. And failing that, George Soros would probably fund them. Not sure what it would take. Both of B'Gal's kids get their info directly from the 6:00 news. I'd still like for the local Fox Network outlets to show Special Report then, like the Big Three do. Gotta start somewhere...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (0HooB)

280 236 and Barak really didn't have He was born in Kenya on his book jacket. all made up by birthers. Posted by: willow at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (nqBYe) If some hacker wanted to make a name for themselves, they could sneak in and find all the intel about Obama no one has access to...school transcripts, scholarship applications, theses, presidential medical reports (which should be publicly revealed but aren't. I'm fine with leaving all his medical records pre-presidential off limits, he was a private citizen then.) Create a blog and post all this up at public places with free wifi like cafes or Apple stores so that they don't get caught by the feds. THEN we will see who has egg on their faces...though his admin will find a way to spin anything bad away, of course. Probably by wrapping it all in a conspiracy theory!

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (yRwC8)

281 I note that the link/story at the Kos, appears to have been scrubbed. "News-Report-Claims-Republicans-Altered-Benghazi-Emails-Who-knew" http://tinyurl.com/p2e9y78 Produces: Error! The error was: This diary has been deleted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (aDwsi)

282 A Royale with Cheese please.

Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (QupBk)

283 Next thing  you'll  know is that CBS  will claim that the Republican's altered the Administration's  response to the attacks and that  the military really  did respond   but that the Republicans   scrubbed the after action reports. 

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (m2CN7)

284 "Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims" And the HACKED my Twitter account too! That was John Boehner's penis!

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (j0wOO)

285 (CNN) -- More than two weeks after four Americans -- including the U.S. ambassador to Libya -- were killed in an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, FBI agents have not yet been granted access to investigate in the eastern Libyan city, and the crime scene has not been secured, sources said. And yet it was a facility staffed with United States CIA contractors, defended eventually by a small US military force (the Annex) and considered US soil but the Obama administration and State department would not tell a ramshackle Libyan government to STFU we're in control of our diplomatic mission? Really? Even after apologizing for having our people die?

Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (KaIAt)

286
I know this about Benghazi, they had that "blame the video" excuse almost while the attack was still on-going per the recently released emails.   As if they had it ready.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 05, 2014 12:43 PM (hJauc)

287 Ding ding ding! We need to burn them down financially if it is at all possible. Write to their advertisers and follow up with your wallet.

Posted by: Republique De Banana at May 05, 2014 12:44 PM (thLL8)

288 Doctor:  You have an STD.

Patient:  I must have gotten it in a public restroom.

Doctor:  That's a hell of a place to take a woman.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 05, 2014 12:44 PM (V70Uh)

289 It's lies all the way down.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 12:44 PM (IbIE/)

290 Snowball wasn't injured in the attack. He planned the attack with Jones! He also took down the windmill and put weed seeds in with the plant seeds!

Posted by: CBS, on behalf Napoleon and Squealer from Animal Farm at May 05, 2014 12:46 PM (j0wOO)

291 Our foreign policy really is being managed by Muslims.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 12:49 PM (v+IiL)

292 First order of business for newly-minted Republican Congress should be to impeach that lying POS over Benghazi. At the very least he should be so diminished that he's forced to resign just like Nixon. ------------------------------------------- No. Just deactivate the JEF. Biden is just as vicious, just as marxist, and just as dictatorial as the dogeater is. Plus, he really is stupid.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2014 12:49 PM (I2drx)

293 Any minute now, McCain is going to try to ride to the rescue of the Democrats. I can feel it.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at May 05, 2014 12:49 PM (D8m/s)

294 I know this about Benghazi, they had that "blame the video" excuse almost while the attack was still on-going per the recently released emails. As if they had it ready. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (hJauc) Not almost. I blamed YouTube Guy in between waves of the attack. You know, the attack that happened so fast that we didn't have time to send a response and that there was no actionable intelligence about?

Posted by: Hillary! at May 05, 2014 12:49 PM (j0wOO)

295 230. "horticultural products," so that's what they're calling whores these days in Denmark? Nah. Just dyslexia from too many three letter acronyms, what I'd think. Me? No trips. I guess I noted that the Left subverts the man MLK, they having reversed who MLK was, revised and repackaged into a Black Liberation Marxist "Theology" rebel promoting violence to get even when frustrated instead of peaceful protest. Leftards do NOT revere MLK's beliefs and life's martyrdom that ALL PEOPLE BE JUDGED BY THE QUALITY OF PERSONAL CHARACTER, most certainly color have NOTHING to do with "who" a person is. MLK had NOTHING to do with the current revisionist "living breathing" ACTIONABLE IN YOUR FACE THUGGERY of what Social Justice "is" and "deserves". All common/universal parlance from America's Sport baseball has been perverted and corrupted. Ex: the "level playing field" meant in the 1960s that all people be treated equally in courts of law, that Justice be not a "respecter" of a person's wealth or poverty when determining what "justice" be dealt, leniency for wealth, a sign of God's favor -- the grindstone in prison hard labor for the poor who "deserve" the pitfalls they stumble upon, true or not. As with all "good" things, going overboard with too much is stupid and harmful. Like throwing the baby out with the bath water. As if Libtards care about babies except in what profits they can bleed from "the children!"

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 12:50 PM (gmrH5)

296 293 Any minute now, McCain is going to try to ride to the rescue of the Democrats. I can feel it. Posted by: sans_sheriff at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (D8m/s) With his flying RINO monkeys? "Fly, my little Friendsshhhh, flyyyy!"

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:50 PM (yRwC8)

297 Posted by: sans_sheriff at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (D8m/s) Oh and I love your nic btw. One of my fave comics about type plays off that! No, no design geeks here, no sir...

Posted by: LizLem at May 05, 2014 12:53 PM (yRwC8)

298 With his flying RINO monkeys? "Fly, my little Friendsshhhh, flyyyy!" Posted by: LizLem He's on a conference call with the Soros foundation right now. That final senate Re-election race is going to be tight and will cost over 20 million to run as a conservative.

Posted by: Daybrother at May 05, 2014 12:53 PM (3G+n5)

299

Look, at this time, we are completely unaware of anything that could possibly have been construed as bad or negligent.

Those guys in Libya, basically, and unfortunately, killed themselves.

It's not Obama's fault they were so incompetent!



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bonehead liberal at May 05, 2014 12:56 PM (xggaJ)

300 Hillary has been told not to run again by her (former) best friends 4ever. Lady Macbeth is too old, ugly, mean spirited, drunk as a skunk, and loaded with too much BIG FAIL baggage to combat the "cheerful" faux Cherokee who committed Identity Fraud to steal tax funds from US tax payers for her own personal benefit. The married wife and mother plus Harvard Law Professor and Senator who CARES about bankruptcy laws -- "Next U.S. President? Senator Elizabeth Warren Pens A Fighting Chance" Rising Political Star Breaks Into New York Times Bestseller List with A FIGHTING CHANCE A Set Up a Possible Run for the U.S. Presidency? quotes: An unlikely political star tells the inspiring story of the two-decade journey that taught her how Washington really works—and really doesn’t. As a child in small-town Oklahoma, Elizabeth Warren yearned to go to college and then become an elementary school teacher—an ambitious goal, given her family’s modest means. [So now she's Pocahontas from an Oklahoma log cabin. whose dad lost his job. So she decided to study bankruptcy. After her work on bankruptcy, she eventually ended up leading the COP panel, which oversaw TARP (Trouble Assets Relief Program), more commonly known as the bank bailout. ] The best (auto)biography I’ve ever read By William Springer "I don’t usually read a lot of autobiographies, but" ... [That's an endorsement?] Unfortunately, while Warren had proposed the agency, fought hard for its creation, and then served as its acting head to get it up and running, the banks (and thus the Republican party) were dead set against her being confirmed as the permanent head of the agency. [GOP warzonwimminz, and she's well over 'retirement' age 60] ==Hillary can not successfully compete against her "happy" opponent Elizabeth. ===And the GOP ain't about to put a woman on their ticket unless her name is [Barbara] Jeb Bush.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 05, 2014 01:10 PM (gmrH5)

301 300 Hillary has been told not to run again by her (former) best friends 4ever. Lady Macbeth is too old, ugly, mean spirited, drunk as a skunk, and loaded with too much BIG FAIL baggage to combat the "cheerful" faux Cherokee who committed Identity Fraud to steal tax funds from US tax payers for her own personal benefit. The married wife and mother plus Harvard Law Professor and Senator who CARES about bankruptcy laws - ??????????????? Remember all of the funny reviews and comments put on various books and products on Amazon? Maybe this book by Cherakee Princess needs a review.

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 05, 2014 01:32 PM (gxtMZ)

302 I love the "too expensive" talking point, surely a Dem first. Hello? Seven trillion in five years? I think we can afford an investigation.

Posted by: mojo at May 05, 2014 01:48 PM (AIC5Z)

303 RE: "And there aren't aliens in Area 51 and Vince Foster wasn't murdered." You know if we knew the alternate to be true, we would have had to sign pieces of paper (NDA) promising to never talk about it or go to jail for life. So, how can we prove you wrong (and still stay free)? We can't. Way to tie our hands in the argument...

Posted by: AvocationAviator at May 05, 2014 02:24 PM (39HxV)

304 I'm still a proud member of the VRWC from the Usenet day's of ACECWW.

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering ... something at May 05, 2014 02:30 PM (baiNQ)

305 Sometimes I just want to find me some Reavers and go all "River Tam" on 'em. But Reavers are make-believe. And River Tam was just a character in a TV series. STILL - BE THAT AS IT MAY - SINCE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO GO ALL "RIVER TAM" ON THE LIB/ PROGS THAT INFEST MY COUNTRY - --- Sometimes I just want to find me some Reavers and go all "River Tam" on 'em.

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at May 05, 2014 02:48 PM (Mr3Wa)

306 Cassandra????

Posted by: msjake at May 06, 2014 04:38 AM (Isk8X)

307 The gov told that Saddam's WMD's were aconspiracy theory. You believed what Big Bother said. ...but you say that Big Brother is always lying to you. Although serious questions about 9/11 have never been answered, even after you exclude 'super secret alien CIA spies who blew up all of those buildings and people,' you believed the gov when it told you that anyone who asked question was a 9/11 Truther. Birthers'? The same thing. heh. Remember when Big Brother told you that Islam was a religion of pace that had been hijacked? You even believed that for several years, before the evidence became overwhelming. Some of you still believe it, for that matter. Over and over and over, again, the gov keeps lying to you and you keep believing it, in spite of the evidence and the history of lies. So...now, Russia and Putin are eeeeviiil and must be dealt with. Because big brother said so... But...don't ask any questions because Big Brother might call you a conspiracy theorist and a traitor. You can trust big brother, this time. Really.

Posted by: MrRedNeckParadise at May 06, 2014 05:37 AM (q6kaG)

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